Brian Martinez ([info]cluebyfour) wrote,

What the police think of gun owners

"I think any person that has a firearm and is willing to shoot at any person is a dangerous person."

That's the opinion of Columbus police officer Tony Garrison, who was shot and wounded (along with another cop) by an ex-Ohio State football player, Derrick Foster, during a no-knock raid on a suspected crack house on April 30.

Foster, who works as a code inspector for the city, was carrying his gun legally as he played dice at the house when the police burst in.  He, like others at the house, believed the intruders to be armed robbers, and Foster says he fired in self-defense (he also says he didn't fire the first shot).  Both Garrison and the other officer have recovered from their wounds.

So we have a raid on a suspected crack house, where no drugs were found and no one was charged with a drug offense; we have a city employee with no arrest record, no involvement in drugs and a CC permit for his gun hanging out with some other guys playing dice.  Granted, they were gambling which I assume is not a legal activity in Columbus, although according to Radley Balko no one was charged even for that.  But if you were hanging out in a tough neighborhood where money was changing hands, wouldn't you assume that someone busting into your house without warning wasn't there to deliver a pizza?

Derrick Foster, quite logically, was carrying a gun for self-defense, and was willing to use it.  In the eyes of at least one police officer, that makes him a dangerous person.  I'm pretty confident he's not the only cop who thinks that, either.

So remember: let the cops do the work of protecting you.  They're professionals.
Tags: police, raids, tyranny

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[info]phaenix_ash

May 22 2008, 17:33:45 UTC 4 years ago

tell me why this shit keeps going down in OH?

[info]cluebyfour

May 22 2008, 17:52:31 UTC 4 years ago

Well, I guess you have more "professionals" there than in other states. ;-)

[info]smjayman

May 22 2008, 17:33:57 UTC 4 years ago

My only thought is that I wish every public official out there considered the people as a whole to be "dangerous" in that their rights shouldn't be trifled with. Oh wait, who am I kidding?

[info]cluebyfour

May 22 2008, 17:55:57 UTC 4 years ago

They think us "dangerous" the way the rest of us think rabid dogs to be dangerous, and they act accordingly. Government is no longer afraid of its citizens.

[info]ilcylic

May 22 2008, 17:45:37 UTC 4 years ago

"I think any person that has a firearm and is willing to shoot at any person is a dangerous person."

Oh, like cops!

[info]cluebyfour

May 22 2008, 17:56:20 UTC 4 years ago

Nah. They're professionals, remember??

[info]blimey85

May 22 2008, 17:58:36 UTC 4 years ago

What is the deal with these no-knock warrants? I guess I just don't understand them at all but this is not the first time we've read about problems surrounding the serving of one.

Why can't they surround the place, announce who they are, and then proceed as per usual? If I have a gun handy and someone busts through my door, you better believe I'm going to use it.

And of course someone asks how would I know I'm not shooting my wife or kid or someone... but they tend to turn the knob and enter normally, not by kicking in the door. If you kick in my door, getting shot is a chance you take.

Maybe the solution is for this to happen MORE often. Maybe then the cops would realize that no-knock warrants are putting them at risk. We do have a right to defend ourselves against real and perceived threats and just because they are cops does not make them immune to flying lead.

[info]flainn

May 22 2008, 19:37:33 UTC 4 years ago

For me, having a firearm and being willing to use that firearm to shoot another person, in defense of self, family or property, are two symbiotic concepts. While rifles and shotguns have uses other than killing humans, handguns largely do not. And I was raised with the attitude of "you don't draw unless you're ready, willing, and able to shoot someone."

That said, I would do the exact same thing during a no-knock. There's no way to distinguish between the cops knocking down your door and a crack addict looking for a fix. Thus, if you're suicidal enough to try it at my house, you'd better be able to dodge at least nine .45 slugs.
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