Brian Martinez ([info]cluebyfour) wrote,
@ 2008-05-01 15:16:00
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the sacrifice of climate change
Even the homeless in America use twice the amount of energy than the global average, according to a new study (PDF) from MIT.

Think about that: you could sleep on the streets, or become a Buddhist monk, and still not be able to reduce your carbon footprint to a level deemed necessary by climate change activists.  And as the study points out, reducing energy usage to at or below the global average "is not obtainable for the average American on a voluntary basis".  I probably don't have to spell out the policy implications here.

And if we are to meet the target of reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 80% from 1990 levels by 2050, as both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have endorsed, the U. S. cannot emit more than 1 billion metric tons of CO2 annually.  Which the country last did in 1910, when it had less than one-third of its current population and per-capita income (adjusted for inflation) was around $6,000.

A small sacrifice.  It may be important to think about the implications of climate change, but it's just as important to think about the human cost—which politicians rarely consider.



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[info]phanatic
2008-05-01 09:24 pm UTC (link)
when it had less than one-third of its current population and per-capita income (adjusted for inflation) was around $6,000.


And when the deliberate release of nuclear energy was still 35 years in the future.

This is why I'm so fucking *bored* about the climate change debate. There's *no reason* why it matters. It's uncontestable that the climate is changing, and whether we're the cause or not, we should be doing the same things. There are effectively infinite reserves of energy available to use to use, and privation and sacrifice simply *aren't necessary*.

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[info]cluebyfour
2008-05-02 02:46 am UTC (link)
I'm not entirely convinced of climate change or how we contribute to it, but I agree with you nonetheless. Some advocates just seemed determined to return us to the Stone Age, and they don't want nuclear energy to be the solution.

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[info]ilcylic
2008-05-02 02:54 am UTC (link)
There are places on this planet that are in the Stone Age, effectively. I'm perfectly willing to ship all of these fucking neo-luddites there for a while. Shit, I'll pay for the ticket.

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[info]selfishgene
2008-05-02 05:52 pm UTC (link)
Amen.

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[info]ilcylic
2008-05-02 06:00 pm UTC (link)
"With your pledge, we can ship a self-righteous hippie to butt-fuck Egypt. Won't you please help?"

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[info]selfishgene
2008-05-02 06:39 pm UTC (link)
Egypt's too good for them. We should strand them on a deserted tropical island with no metal tools. They can then live the pure life they dream of - for about 5 days before dying horribly.

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[info]phanatic
2008-05-04 06:12 pm UTC (link)


I'm not sure what can be contested. The world's getting warmer, and that warming is a relatively recent affair.

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[info]fabianwhig
2008-05-09 01:42 am UTC (link)
Every cost analysis I have read has pointed me to the simple fact that we could more easily off set the effects of climate changes through private charity for about half the amount of money than we could stop it. Furthermore, no politician has ever kept to the climate promises, such as Europe's utter failure to reduce emissions since Kyoto much less meet their agreed to standards.

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[info]cluebyfour
2008-05-09 02:18 am UTC (link)
Not only that, but they've given a free ride to developing countries whose CO2 output far outpaces the U. S. or the EU.

(I added you back, BTW. Welcome aboard!)

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[info]fabianwhig
2008-05-09 03:36 am UTC (link)
Thank you.

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[info]fabianwhig
2008-05-09 01:44 am UTC (link)
Furthermore, people like Derek Jensen and Jared Diamond seem to think that we would be better off pre-agriculture with average life spans of about 40 years, and they have no small influence on a lot of environmental thinking.

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